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Default RE: The - 08-08-2005, 03:58 PM

@ Coach again

>Now, according to the English lexicon, I am right! Humans have
>been given freewill by God and will be held responsible for
>the choices they make. Kapish?

I'll never understand how you can have an all-knowing god and free-will. The 2 cannot co-exist, they are mutually exclusive. I know we've debated this over and over again, but I still cannot understand it.

If from Second One of Minute One of Day One god knew the choices I'll make on the morning of July 16th 2052, then I have no choice, I have to do what god knows I'll do. If I do anything else it will mean that god didn't know what I was going to do (which doesn't fit the description of an all-knowing god). If I do what he's always known I'll do, then I definitely did not decide to do that, it was predestined for me (which then doesn't fit the description of us having free will).

And of course this brings about other bigger issues, like if god knows all the evil that will happen then he lets it happen, doesn't that make him culpable?

And what about the times in the bible when god intentionally intefered with the free will of certain people, are they to be held responsible for what they did under god's inteference e.g. Judas betraying Jesus to fulfil god's commandments, or god "hardening" Pharaoh's heart so as to make Pharaoh's people suffer more.
 
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