[satjas]

Hey Coach

>You fail to see the point. They learnt about their free-will
>by going against what God had told them. That is the point of
>free-will, it is YOUR choice and not what you have been told.
>That is why you are held responsible for your actions in a
>court of law and also in the hereafter.

As usual i fail to see the point and you do...let's try again....when one has free-will one is responsible for one's own actions.....in other words, if i climb up a ladder out of my own free will and slip i will hurt myself and cause myself unneccessary pain, NOT if i climb up a ladder out of my own free will and slip and hurt myself the government will ban ladders and possibly have me arrested for expressing my free will.

Free will and any condition of any kind cannot go hand in hand. Free will is not the same as choice.

Choice: you can either do this or that and face the consequences
Free-will: you can do this or that or neither and there will be no consequences whatsoever.

Please Coach do not get confused between the two.....get rid of the smoke to get a clearer picture.


>God prohibited this and you get it from Holy Scripture
>revealed to Messenegers of God.

One sweeping statement and you expect everybody to believe that? The books are not an authority on God. If God so willed God would/could just as easily reveal that stuff to us directly.....or do you think God is incapable of that???

>On the onset of Islam, Muslims
>were allowed to consume alcohol but was later prohibited; this
>is through Divine Scripture which you have (using free-will)
>refused to acknowledge.

Here you shoot urself in the foot again......so this God once approved of alcohol and then realized what a fcking mistake He's made and sent an sms through his messengers which He knew we might not accept since He gave us the free will to accept and reject anything without any problems.

>I wrote that to adress your previous statements when you
>said...
>
>"the creation story is just that.....a story, it has no sense
>in it..."
>
>mtDNA shows that all humans who live on earth have the same
>gene pool which shows that we came from the same mother
>(creation).


and what have i said........can you answer what i just said?

-the paradigm shifter....God's friend.

The soul is that which beholds beauty even when the mind denies it.