[teejay]

>>God’s son would not be an alcoholic and must
>>not taste alcohol.
>
>No-one stated that Jesus was an alcoholic. Just because you
>drink wine doesn't mean you're an alcoholic. Many of my saved
>friends, and some pastors I know, take wine once in a while
>with their food, as well as serve it in their churches. I
>don't think god has any objections to wine, just excessive
>indulgence in wine.

Your save friends drink it because they neither no the word nor what the scriptures say. Haven’t you heard that not every one who says Lord Lord shall enter? Many people hide themselves in the church while their acts are worldly. The fact that some of these people are pastors and earthshaking evangelists does not mean that they are right in partaking of that which of forbidden. Mark you some of this ministers of God teach only what they were taught by their theological college professors. If you follow them blindly then both of you will fall into a ditch. Don’t you know that some of these ministers are doing business and they will not even dare rebuke any unbecoming ways of their congregation, of c course just incase they start running away and they leave with their hefty offerings.

ATlian Christians must not take fermented wine. If they do so, it is on their own individual capacities because they don’t have any divine permission whatsoever on that type of indulgence. Perhaps it is time you invited your drinking saved friends to come over and share with us here at mashada; they may a thing or two out of these forum.

>Also, I don't think these are "unnecesary tantrums", it's just
>a different way of looking at the same situation.

I could agree more. Indeed you way is very strangely different. And you see that’s why you always get it wrong any time you are reading the bible.

>If Christ is exactly as his dad (god) is, then I've no need,
>want or desire for Christ in my life. Secondly, I do study the
>bible, it's one heck of an interesting read.

No my friend Christ is not like god but Like,as, is God. You don’t need to follow god,but God. Kwa Nakuomba uweze kuvuka sakafu kwa mweno wa aste aste na Kujiunga na upande ushindao wakiti wote.