satjas,
>those are facts..........like i've said before i have no
>problem with people, you included, its the ideology that
>beggars belief!!
Just like you, I have a problem with the rationale these people are using. Islam does in no way support the killing of innocent civilians, I can even post hadiths to show you that killing women and children and are forbidden in Islam. These people might be Muslims, but they have somehow used Islam to try and justify their thirts for blood. The problem is NOT with islam, but you think it is and that's where we disagree.
>Hmmm........in a politically correct mad gone world they
>perhaps dare not say what they truly feel since it will cause
>more problems than heal already broken wounds......the wounds
>that were inflicted on 7/7 and again unsuccessfully two weeks
>later.
>People who cannot think beyond themselves will always feel
>threatened.......
They are being "PC" not because they fear more bombings but because the gvt fears the British population will blame them for bringing the war to their streets. That is why Blair is concentrating only in vilifying the bombers and not the reasons that might have led to the bombing. This is what a respected think tank in Britain said (in the link below), but the govt refuses to acknowledge a link...
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5041259.html
I do not blame 1 Billion people for the
>action of a few. Perhaps by a few you mean 0.1% of a
>Billion.....that makes 1 million deranged
>individuals.........still alot if you ask me......out of these
>1 million about 19 were the 9/11 guys and 4 were the london
>chaps....all in all perhaps 1000 guys or even 10,000 guys have
>done stuff cos they were deranged........
That's some pretty wicked stats! You should consider working as a spin doctor. You have over 100 000 deranged american soldiers in Iraq today who are risking their lives in an unjust war. There are hundreds of souther Sudanese people killing people, destroying property and causing mayhem after they found out about Garang's death. There are 1000's of Russian soldiers killing women and children in Chechnya. There are a lot of crazy people in the world mate.
That still leaves a
>hell of a lot of deranged fellows out there. And guess what
>they all follow the same ideology....they follow it better
>than you......they act upon what their ideology tells them to
>do.
There we go again, you are blaming islam for their actions. I asked you to bring evidence that supports your claim from the Qur'an and I'll help break it down for you.
The british govt has not had time to read the book of
>that ideology. Perhaps they ought to.....they'll get
>enlightened......like some of us did.
Really? And they have directly and indirectly colonised Muslim countries for centuries. You should tell them this exciting information that you have unearthed. Who knows, they might throw an OBE to say thanks.
>Yes peanut brain agrees they have muslim sounding names but
>you will ofcourse try and justify that they were common
>criminals. You think we are stupid to believe that petty
>criminals would come up with plans to kill people on this
>scale? petty criminals thrive in petty theft.....they are not
>ready to die for a cause.....these guys are. Dude lets not
>forget mike tyson is a former convict.....but is a muslim
>now.
Well, what peanut brain needs to understand that these people have been duped! They have probably been told that all their sins can be dissolved with the push of a button. They were probably told that 72 virgins will be thrown in as an extra bonus. You would have to be a stupid criminal to buy that.
>That is why they used their votes in the last election and
>voted back the same govt. On that same note i wonder how many
>islamic states have fair voting? why then are innocent victims
>being killed in london by brits of muslim belief ??
Fair voting is not encouraged by the west because the Muslim population generally opts for theocracy and taht is not what they want. Algeria as a good example and they have also said that they didn't go to Iraq so that a theocracy can be born (read: they will not allow the people to choose Islam).
>My question at this point is - are you a jihadist since you
>proclaim to know who an average jihadist is?
I am a Jihadist and I undertake what is called Jihad-Akbar, the Greater Jihad. This is the Jihad of the soul and is the most important form of Jihad in Islam. I bet you didn't know that! I was referring to a militant jihadist who is doing the lesser jihad.
>Coach, i do not discuss politics since my peanut brain is
>incapable of rationale thought process. The jews have always
>belonged to isreal and it just so happens that jerusalem
>happens to be in their so called holy land. They have every
>right to be there just as much as the palestinians. We need
>tolerance and peace not war and hatred.
Palestine (the land that is now referred to as Israel, West Bank and Gaza) has always belonged The Jews, Muslims and Christians. That is until the Balfour Declaration in 1917 and the creation of the state of Israel in 1947 - when the land suddenly belonged to the Jews only and otehrs were seen as extras. Jews migrated from all over the world to move in while Palestinians were pushed out...how can tolerance and peace be born out of that?