[teejay]

>
>RAPTURE??
>I dont know ANYTHING about the rapture theory.. I ONLY read my
>bible mostly after a hard day's work. Its very
>UPLIFTING...(excuse the pun)

You are excused and you are also hereby bodly told to know what the prophecy in that same bible says. It(bible)is uplifting and also warns us in advance. It is high you also take a look at the prophecy.

>This is what my Bible says MtÂ*24:40-41
>"Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and
>the other left. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the
>one shall be taken, and the other left."
>>They show an event that is
>>impossible to miss; an even that is endowed with surprise
>and
>>spectacle.
>This passage does not ascribe to the event being
>"spectacular".. in its simplicity it only says one will be
>taken and another left...dhaaaaa
>
>quantum physics is a study that looks at the behaviour of
>atoms..in their constant motion.. we do not see the motions
>with our eyes neither do we rule out their properties..
>
>Is it too hard for God to give properties of vision to one
>person and limit that vision to others? dhaaaaaa and dhaaaaaa

I think you did not get me sleeze. I was commenting on the passage that TM gave out. The one of Thesalonians. You can also read my post on the origin of rapture theology.

>Frankly I dont care...about its timing... either way bottom
>line is at one point in time non-christians will be left
>behind and that should be our main concern..unless you want to
>challenge that fact...triple dhaaaaaa

Once again you have misread me and you guns are firing at the wron person. I am trying to analyze the rapture theology as presented before us by the Jesuit organization. And if you are truely understanding me you'll find that am subjecting their every claims to the biblical tests. Just as we are told to test every spirit that comes in the name of the Lord. And the theology is very wanting as per my finding. I want to be like the Bereans that Paul commended. The bereans always subjected all teachings to test of the scriptures.

You dont need to remind me that sinners will not inherit the heavenly bliss. I know that too well. And what I am doing here is alerting those who are steadfast in adhering to God's call about the very ploy that those sinners have against them. Christ noted in his summons the tricks are so subtle that even the very elect will be decieved. So we christians must talk to one another and learn from one another.

>No one is disputing this....dhaaa...

For once you have concured with me.

>This I agree....The full culmination of such affiliction shall
>be the great tribulation.. ( which is preceeded by the
>apostate -falling away first)) state of the church..)but even
>then the gospel will be preached.. yea even it troublesome
>times...dhaaaaa!!!! cant u see the state of the church now???
>dhaaaaa?????

I do see the state of the church. And in fact to some extent it is good for such things to happen. It shows that the Spirit of God is still at work and is working against any fallacy in the church. The great falling you are talking about began centuries ago with emergence of protestant reformation initiated by God through Martin Luther the brave German frair who sent chill thought halls of Vatican by persistantly rebuking their vain worship of God.

>>The Church has stopped leaving like the bride of the
>>most high and is rather enticed by the things of this world
>>and therefore is fornicating with the ruler of this
>>world,Satan.
>
>Could not agree with you more...incidentally did you know the
>Roman Church IS THE WEALTHIEST organised institution in the
>world.. no i mean literally.. wealthy...

Yeah. That I know very weall. That wealth they got from the drug trade in the far east during they vietnam war through the Jesuits. They also sold indulgence. A doctrine that taught that if one donated money to the catholic coffers thier sins and those of their dead loved ones will be pardoned and freed from purgatory as soon as the coin lands at the bottom of the till! During dark ages they amassed for themsleves the wealth of their victims.

>Jesus was critical both about the outside as well as he was
>about the inside of a person..
>
>why wash a cup and fill it with wine that has been obtained by
>blood lies and violence? dhaaaaa????
>
>Botton LINE- we surrender our eternal will to him who dwells
>in us..so that in the fulfillment of time.. the same spirit
>that dwelt in him will raise as up.. to eternal life..

There is left just a small bit of misunderstanding. Try and read me more profoundly. You will see that me and you are on the same side. That is, Christ is my saviour and my guide I shall not want... you can go on from here. With me you are that much cherished brother.