[kombamwiko]

>-it is interesting that you consider miracles as being subject
>to discussion, but you readily consider the biblical text
>legit enough to merit your analysis of jesus. if it is
>possible to question the miracles, then why not also question
>that he talked to the people that he talked to and asked them
>to follow him?


i havent witnessed an obvious miracle,but i have witnsessed someone talking to another.talking is an act that happens a lot so it is believable that it happened.

and also like i said the bible may not be 100 percnt accurate.but we cannot say alll that is written about jesus is a lie.there is usually some truth even in rumours.that is why i have eliminated the miracles as possible exaggerations and limited myself to NORMAL stuff that jesus said.



>-there are intelligent human beings out there with the ability
>to do things we would call 'supernatural' in our day and age.
>some call them witches, others call them psychics, yet others
>call them devil worshippers. the list is endless. i have a
>sneaking suspicion that if jesus was to rudi today, and to do
>exactly what he did all those years ago, most ppl would think
>him unstable and dangerous, including his own followers. in
>the world that I live in, today, there are ppl with abilities
>that supercede my understanding. but I don’t elevate them to
>gods. why is that the case?

i have never seen a pschic perform any of his "magic".i only HEAR claims.

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>-so my take on jesus: if he existed, and if that which is
>recorded in the bible is true, he was an extraordinary human.

i agree.he was an extraordinay human IF he was human.my take is he was SOO extraordinary,,that he simply had to be God.
IF he was a mere human ,,how come in alllll this time not ONE person has come close to achieving his feats?????