[Coach]

TM,
>>Jesus PBUH himseld did NOT consider himself God, why would
>you?
>
>As you said this topic can take ages to discuss because the
>outcome will reveal whether Chrsitianity or Islam is FAKE. One
>is!!!


No! You understood it the way you wanted to. What I really meant (as I've explained earlier) is that I didn't have the time to discuss it in depth and even if we did discuss it in depth, we would still be where we started; I'll still be a Muslim (and probably a stronger Muslim) and teejay still be believing the 3-in-1 formula of God.




>First, turn to Exodus 3, where Moses encounters God in the
>burning bush. God tells Moses that he is the one He has chosen
>to lead the Israelites out of Egypt. Moses says to God,
>"Suppose I go to the Israelites and say to them, 'The God of
>your fathers has sent me to you,' and they ask me 'What is His
>name?' Then what shall I tell them?" God replies to Moses, "I
>AM WHO I AM. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I
>AM has sent me to you.'" God has said that His own name, His
>personal name, is "I AM."
>
>Now...
>
>* a) Turn to John 8:56-58. Jesus is talking to the unbelieving
>Jews. "Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing
>My day; he saw it and was glad." "You are not yet 50 years
>old," they said to Him, "and you have seen Abraham?" "I tell
>you the truth," Jesus announced, "before Abraham was, I AM!"
>Jesus was the great I AM from before the beginning of time; He
>existed before Abraham ever was. He is claiming here to be the
>I AM of the Old Testament. Verse 59 says the Jews picked up
>stones to stone Him, but the Lord Jesus slipped away. The
>reason they wanted to stone Him was because stoning was the
>death penalty for blasphemy. He was claiming to be
>Yahweh--Jehovah--Almighty God--I AM. (Of course, it wasn't
>blasphemy when Christ claimed to be who He truly was!)
>
>* b) John 8:24. "I told you that you would die in your sins;
>if you do not believe that I AM, you will indeed die in your
>sins." In your Bible, it may read "if you do not believe that
>I am the one I claim to be...." The extra words are supplied
>by the editors; they're not in the original text. If you're
>familiar with Exodus 3 you don't need the extra words for it
>to make grammatical sense. The Lord Jesus is again claiming to
>be God.
>
>* c) John 18:4. In the Garden of Gethsemane, Judas and some
>priests and soldiers are about to take Jesus prisoner. "Jesus,
>knowing all that was going to happen to Him, went out and
>asked them, 'Who is it that you want?' 'Jesus of Nazareth,'
>they replied. 'I AM,' Jesus said. When He said, 'I AM,' they
>drew back and fell to the ground." (Again, in your Bible the
>editors may have supplied "I am [he]" to make it grammatically
>correct. The Greek just says, "I AM.")
>
>The force of Jesus' claim to be Yahweh (I AM) was so powerful
>that it literally knocked the arresting officers and the
>Jewish priests off their feet!



So this is your proof that Jesus PBUH was God? You must be joking! God would NEVER be humilitated by his creatures, He would never ask another god for help, He would NEVER pray for He is God and to whom would be praying to?????

Why do you choose the verses that suit your argument? Why don'tyou talk about the origins of trinity which caused much bloodshed and was forced upon the Chrsitians by their opressive rulers?