[teejay]

>Maybe you preach Christianity as a full time job but my friend
>I generally surf this site for about 15 minutes a couple of
>days, that's if I get the time. What I said was meant to show
>you that this issue cannot be discussed through a few posts
>but needs a deep discussion. If you are patient enough then we
>can get started and discuss this issue, open a thread and we
>shall start discussing the concept of Jesus PBUH as God and
>the notion of the trinity and where it originated.

>I know that you as a Christian today does not accept Muhammad
>PBUH as God's Messenger so your last remark didn't come as a
>suprise. I'm indeed a person who follows the teachings of
>Muhammad PBUH and his followers have debated with Jews and
>Christians even over 1400 years ago, so I'll try and do my
>part according to my knowledge if you intitiate a thread where
>we can discuss these issues.

Coach there is nothing to discuss more than what am telling you. What I say to you is what is written in the bible. If for 1400 years you are still in that discussion I cannot help you. Beside your mastery of the bible is almost unmatched. When you grew up you ate, slept and even talked Muhammad, but I teejay came to accept Christ and got saved. Even if I am to indulge you, do you think it will yield a profit? No for your human teachings have hardened your heart like the scribes and for 1400 long years you have not loosened a bit. Forget about a different thread other than this. This where you read it, learn it and accept. If not am not responsible if your soul is not delivered. After all God has allowed us al to make choices. IT is up to you to make a wise choice. Step forth like Nicodemus and know more about the rebirth. Leap on trees of obstacles and get your share like Zakayo the short guy. Follow him who is the son of God and you shall never die. Through me the gracious savior has been Kind enough not to pass you. So heed and yield. Muhammad died and was buried but Christ lives. When he see one soul dismissing salvation he is saddened for the loss of even one soul to him is to much to bear.

>I don't reject the whole Bible but parts that are not
>compatible with a montheistic religion. The notion of the
>trinity was also added later on by some translators and
>Muslims totally reject this. Never the less, Muslims believe
>in Jesus PBUH but not the as God or son of God but as a
>messenger of God.

Christ (son) talk s of Holy Spirit and he talks of God (father) and then He says the Him Christ and the father are one. How difficult is that for you to believe. I tell you that it is useless to accept the word of God piecemeal. Either believe it wholly or quit soliciting for attention from Christians by claiming that we (Muslims and Christians) share certain similar aspects of religious teachings of the word of God. Allah is your god Yaweh the great I AM is my God.

>So now you have supernatural powers and can read other
>people's minds? You can makea living out of fortune telling
>and clairvoyance. Make use of it and predict wars, maladies
>and other sisnister things so that we can be safer :-)

Even if I had that Gift I would not offer it for sale. God cannot be bought with evil money. A man whence demanded of the healing powers that the apostle Peter had at a price, only to be rebuked. His thoughts were evil like you are telling me. He saw this Gift as an avenue to making riches for himself.

>Adam PBUH, the first human being was NOT born like other human
>beings, shall we say he is "son of God" too by using your
>logic? Jesus PBUH is described in the Qur'an as Adam PBUH
>because they were did not come to the world like other people
>have (Jesus had one parent and Adam had NO parents). This does
>NOT mean that they are sons of God inany way just beacuse they
>were not conceived of two parents.

Indeed the first Adam was son of God and the second Adam(Christ) too is son of God. In the first Adam sin came to this world but in the second Adam Salvation is been given to the world by the grace of God.

Ideally speaking Christ was not of this earth and therefore had no earthly parent as such. But teaching by the fact that is Christ the one who must Judge the world in the end of time, He was born of a woman so that He took human flesh to become like one of us and go through the same experience we humans are going through and he conquered the world. No person whatsoever will have any excuse on that day. The only phrase left for them to say will be... “Lord your judgment is true and just.”

>The Pope is the leader of over 1 000 000 000 people in the
>world, he has more followers that any president or king in the
>world and is respected by all faiths even though they don't
>agree with his doctrines. This is called respect for other
>people's religion!

I like that kind of respect. Some religion, even as am talking to you allow, people to bury live infants momentarily in bizarre rituals. What respect do you think they deserve yet they disrespect human dignity? You see, that ritual is also a different doctrine. Shall we also say the pope approves of it. I repeat myself again Coach. If only out knew what you are saying about the pope then you would be perplexed at the magnitude of your word. It is written that the whole world will wonder after the beast. Do some studies on the book of Revelation begin with 11, 12, and 13. Those are the chapters that deal more with Vatican’s Character over the world. The pope is a secular leader (a king himself) hiding behind the priestly gown to conceal his real Identity. Remember what Napoleon said. He (pope) insists on being master sovereign over the sovereign. Is it therefore any wonder that even Leaders of the world follow him and through that subtle snare, Papacy has been able to endear itself to many people of the world and lately Muslims. I predict that the number you have printed above will be surpassed in the near future.
Coach the only common thing between people who’s religion don’t agree is politics. And if they do agree religiously one of them must surmount the other. Muslims were therefore at the Vatican in their capacity as political diplomats and not because of respect of the other religion. Besides the Vatican is currently practicing religious tolerance, which before long will change for worse, with Muslims lending that much needed sycophantic and bigoted help to the calls of papacy.