[joeNM]

>Why are you not seeing. You are judged by the standards you
>claim to follow. You can't go judging a whino with the same
>standards you would judge the prezo - in that same way you who
>claims to be a "good Christian" will be looked at by people in
>that light. You don't just claim to be a good person, you
>claim to be a good Christian. When are good Christians
>supposed to say enough is enough and start hurling matusis
>back - never. You are supposed to sit there and take it, if
>you start hurling matusis back then you amount to nothing
>better than a hypocrite. When you stop being defensive and
>take a step back and look at yourself, maybe you'll see.

You know a funny thing is i have never called myself a good christian as you claim. i have never said that i was better than any one of you. like i tell people the difference between saved and unsaved people is that we recognize we are sinners and unsaved people refuse that they are sinners. yes i should set a good example and i think i have tried to.

i know some people want to see cowardly christians who are insulted and they run away but am simply not that kind of person . i am not called to be a doormat( as you said i am supposed to sit there and take it) for people with their own issues.

i see you have already made up your mind about me being a hypocrite because i do not conform to your view of what a christian should be. but when i stand at that GREAT THRONE i will answer for myself and you will do the same . if people are going to make choices because oof what joe says ama somebody else then i have nothing to add. you make your choice if you think that excuse will hold up then its all good.
some people are always looking for reasons to refuse the truth and blame someone else for their hate and there is nothing i can do about that .i can only pray that i do not misrepresent christ.but if you cant realise that humans are not perfect then i dont know what can help you

i have been on mashada long enough to see the kind of trickery employed here against christians and its shameful that you can even start discussing my response and not even mention the attacks against me and belivers on this site . i even think you are probably in kahots with the elements on mashada who are anti christ but
i will not be shaken! i will not be intimidated and i will most definately not take it lying down . if you anyone wants a fight like i said me am always ready to fight . if you want peace and prayer i am a peaceful person and willing to pray . i dont hate anyone of you i just hate the sin in all of us