[Coach]

TM,

>As long as you keep on pointing fingers .....you will never
>get......Sorry, this one I can't help you. In your misguided
>thinking, you give yourself and only yourself the right to
>'explain the right context'. Anybody who disagrees with you is
>either Islamphobia or a Christian or even both.
>Don't try too too hard, Let ALLAH fight his battles -i.e. if
>he is a true God.


Please be objective for once! NO ONE IS POINTING FINGERS!

Zelda asked something very simple and I am being crucified for answering. Forget what Islam says about women because that is not relevant here...open a thread if you feel you have soemthing to discuss about Islam just like I did previously instead of throwing the issue back and forth.

>
>>TeamManager,
>>I asked for what this verse means...I (and everyone else)
>>understand it as it is meant to be understandand if there's
>a
>>hidden meaning, please elucidate us...
>
>Everyone else?....Coach or just you alone.

Yeah, I'm hoping there's more than three people who've read the thread.



>Any honest person who reads the passage will definately know
>that Paul is simply explaining the advantages of being single
>and later he points out the pressures of being single.
>
>Simple example, common sense tells me that a single man can
>concentrate on his daily night job as a DJ much more than a
>responsible married man can for obvious reasons....his divided
>thoughts between his family and work will distract him.
>
>NO MYSTERY, a single man can easily jump on to a plane and go
>and serve the Lord in Mongolia, but for me who is married
>there is much to consider.


Cute analogy, but the fact remains that being single (read: celibate) is more desirable because one has no "distractions". To get a bit out of topic...Islam goes actually to the opposite direction and encourages the youth to get married as soon as they can because their hormones might lead them temptation and eventually to fornicate which is a major sin.

Paul says: "I am telling you this for your own benefit, not to impose a restraint upon you, but for the sake of propriety and adherence to the Lord without distraction."

It is loud and clear, he's doesn't want to be a spoilsport and put restraint on people but he is merely telling them that one shouldn't (get married) for "the sake of propriety and adherence to the Lord without distraction".








>Christian believe what? Christians view women as what? You are
>not serious.....please refrain from expressing your madarasa
>ideas about what Christians believe and present them as facts.
>Always remember that from day 1, Islam has always tried to
>disprove the Bible and Christianity.
>
>Christian believe that man and woman were kicked out of Eden
>because they DID NOT OBEY GOD.
>Christians view or love their wives as Jesus loved the Church
>i.e. to death.

You must be taking the wrong Bible studies. Who did the serpent approach and mislead? If you read anything that says it was not Eve you should discard of your Bible. Go to Genesis 3:16-21 and read how God is said to have told Eve that he would increase the pain during childbearing becasue of what she did and Adam will be punished for LISTENNING TO HIS WIFE.





>>he raped...why is a woman punished by marrying her rapist?
>I don't know but I guess the heavy fine and the 'he should be
>bound to marry her, and never to divorce her, how much soever
>she was below him, and how unpleasing soever she might
>afterwards be to him,' was to deter men from such vicious
>practices, which it is a shame that we are necessitated to
>read and write of.


Oh how merciful! Punish the woman by sentencing her to a lifetime with her rapist!

Do you seriously believe this is a just sentence for the woman? Do you even see how merciless and inhumane this law is to the woman?