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Default RE: Personalities who have influenced Christianity: Twawafahamu? - 03-27-2005, 09:53 AM

TeamManager,
That is a cop-out and anyone with an ounce of intelligence can see it. The verse clearly say (unless I got a wrong version"...

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32. I should like you to be free of anxieties."An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord.

33. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife'

34. and he is divided. An unmarried woman or a virgin is anxious about the things of the Lord, so that she may be holy in both body and spirit. A married woman, on the other hand, is anxious about the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
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Now, catholics priest follow this advice to the letter because they abstain from marriage in order to "please the Lord". If Paul doesn't recommend celibacy, why do the Catholics priests live in celibacy? They ought to set an example, both moral and spiritual for their congregation and choosing celibacy shows that they hold it to be more admirable than the institution of marriage.

You say...

"This question of theirs expressed the idea that, since sex drives create so many problems, it is best to get away and forget it all, and the apostle's answer is that there is nothing wrong with celibacy; it is all right to be single."

You have science and history working against this theory. History - a history of abuse on the young (alter) boys has been recorded in the history of the Catholic church which comes from the perverted nature of someone supressing their natural inclination. Science - Some people can be asexual (very small number) but most (espe men) havea high sex drive and according to recent research (men) think of sex every three seconds. If you think they lived in a highly sexualised society, you better think again; sex has never been advertised in the west like it is today.





>Tell me about this ...
>1. the reason a muslim woman is made to drape in cloth to make
>her unattractive for the lustful manly eyes instead of the men
>being educated to control their lust......

This is a view held by those who read verses that suit their agenda. Look up the numerous verses and hadiths that tell men to lower their gaze, avoid being with the opposite sex in secluded area etc. Look at teh society we live in today, if a woman wears a mini skirt, she will be stared at and desired (raped in some extreme cases), but if she dresses modestly, she is respected and not treated like a sexual object. This is areality and that's why women are told to dress modestly.



>2. Why do many muslims similarly miss out 'verses' and turn to
>violence/terror etc in the name of religion.

You apparently haven't read what I posted above. I explained that tehre are elements that misuse and intepret certain verses to suit their needs, they are wrong and do not find any support anywhere in the Quran, hadith and the history of Islam.


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>Do you think that your prophet lived and set a good
>'sexual-life' example.

Yes he did! He was married to one woman for most of his life (until she passed away). The others he married later (besides Aisha) were middle-aged widows and divorcees who'd not have anyone to care and support them. If he was a womaniser as the Christians paint him to be, don't you think he'd take young women who haven't had children or been married before? What did he use his wealth for? he was offered to be the King of Mecca (which would mean a life of luxury in every sense of the word) but rejected in and continued spreading the worship of one God.
 
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