[satjas]

Hey Coach

>satjas,
>This is one of your better contributions where you have made
>your views clear without much condescending remarks about
>others' faith.

i couldn't trust you to say that.....and then i realized i was right cos then you said..

> But you didn't manage to do it without some
>insults brought about by the lack of knowledge in Islam.

hmmm.....whenever i don't agree with what you believe in you claim i have insulted you....this is a classic victim syndrome, something your ideology has refined for you.....and ofcourse you will always claim islamophobia.....hmm i know.


>Allah
>tells us that the Qur'an is His words and for those who
>disbelieve, He invites them to look into the Qur'an and find
>any scientific fault in it or even try and write anything
>similar to it.

No he doesn't, but then again i could be wrong.....is this Allah also God? And if She is why does She need humans to find fault in Her writings? In all my life in school i was taught to grasp the good stuff taught by my teacher and leave or ignore the mistakes.....so i find it strange that Allah should be asking us to pick a fault instead of advising us to take the best out of the kooran and ignoring any faults......common sense tells me that.

> This is not "self-egotism" as you have
>understood it but an open challenge to humanity, those who
>don't believe should try and produce something like it (not
>even better, but something like it in magnitude).

Actually i have read immaculate stuff but you will never accept that hence i will not bother you with unnecessary info.


> I know this analogy
>sounds a bit daft,

Yes true that.....a wise man accepts his mistakes....

>You talk about Salman Rushdie and it is apparent that you
>haven't read (or understood) his book "The Satanic Verses".
>This was not an attempt to write something like the Qur'an but
>a cheap shot insulting the beliefs of Muslims all over the
>world and mocking them. He might be endowed with deep archaic
>English but he is no more talented than the other writers out
>there. The fatwa by Khomeini made him famous and very few
>people had heard of him before that.

Obviously anyone you do not agree with will be deemed to have insulted you so i understand your madarasa school of thought.

>Did you even read what I posted above? I read it through and
>know excatly what they were talking about. I even quoted a
>paragraph from the link you gave me, did you miss that? I then
>gave you a response that refutes their claims but it is
>apparent that you didn't even bother to "get informed" and
>correct the misonceptions you have about the Qur'an.

Coach, most of the stuff makes no sense....i do not waste time reading stuff once i can see fallacy of thought....most of the stuff can be rendered illogical by the fourth written line....I also believe that the brain is a data processor and stores memory.....i have no need for unnecessary info.....yes the kooran has some beautiful verses, yes alot of it makes sense and yes alot of it leaves alot to be desired.....that is the bone of contention.

-the paradigm shifter.....God's friend.

The soul is that which beholds beauty even when the mind denies it.