[satjas]

Hey TM

>Since you have no intention of getting informed, I rest for
>now.
>I understand where you and the Koran are coming from. For your
>faith to be 'true' you have to claim that Christianity is
>false.
>My purpose was always to let you know that ALLAH and God in
>the Bible are different. The God in the Bible LOVES us and
>provided a way back to him. Allah, still leaves you in a
>stranded weighing your 'good and bad' on a credit-based
>system.
>Cheers!

TM, my friend please do not short-sell yourself.....you see the God you believe in and the One Coach believes in and the One I believe about are in reality the Same.....and at this stage i am overlooking all other things. The problem arises when we all try to claim how much only we know Her through our various religious books......and at that point, everyone professes truth and there is chaos due to our perceived 'truths'. The problem is a spiritual one but you have let it manifest itself in economic and social terms. When you see yourself succeeding socially and financially you attribute it to God, when things do not happen the way you want them to, you say 'it is all God's plan' even when you know you want it the other way.....c'mon man, who wants to live in poverty? And when you see other's failing socially and financially you say they have forgotten God and that God is meting justice due to their failure in acknowledging God......and in your case Jesus too. It is obviously frustrating to communicate with one who has glaucoma in one eye and 'blind' faith in the other and as such i do understand you resting your case with Coach.

In as much as i have utter respect for your salvation and heaven, i strive for more...you see, if heaven is a place, i have no problem with that. There are many who have already achieved salvation here on earth. However my quest is to merge with my creator, to become one with The Energy that made me be here in the first place.To merge with the One who created the Heaven!!!!!!!!!! That is a higher quest....people who have achieved salvation.....truly.....not the fake ones we see around, have met their souls.......mine is to take my soul to meet The Bigger Soul, its Creator, where All souls eventually merge with. There is no teaching or religious text that has explained to anyone how to achieve that par one. Even the bible, the torah and the kooran fall way short of this.

Nothing you have ever been taught can prepare you for this. I have read the Bible and the Kooran in depth and have not been able to find shared logic in achieving Oneness with God. Why do i say shared logic? Because there has to be no doubt in the way of achieving that Oneness with God. And the two books do not identify with this aspect at all. Even after you achieve salvation, the real-deal salvation.....not the one you hamper about you will then understand why I have told you this.....until then we shall only have endless debates.

Why do you need to know this? Albert Einstein once said knowledge is experience everything else is information..........you and I my friend only have the information ( from different ideologies and books) but I strive for that experience, the experience of God. Then and only then shall true Knowledge be known.

The credit based system also applies to christians albeit in a subtle way.......obviously you will be knocking me on this truth but you know for a fact that you claim Jesus is the only way to heaven...thus being the ultimate credit one can get..or be given.

To you TM and Coach it may appear that I am putting you down. This is not the case. It is the ideologies that you follow that do not allow for flexibility of thought. I have said this before.....let us not discard Books of old but strive to find newer truths. One does not need to be told that killing is denying another the chance to enjoy life but please let us not do it in Allah's name.

Despite the fact that many claim they are getting more adherents to their ideologies, quality is more important than quantity. I would rather have a few good men fighting for justice by my side than a million sick minded people. The sad truth is that many do not know how to disentangle themselves from the web of lies they have created. Let us take you for example. Suppose hypothetically, someone showed you with ample proof that what you had believed in was incorrect, and that now you had truly seen the light, you TM might find it very hard to accept you were wrong for a good part of your life. The same applies to many of us. Remember, all you read and know is only information. Experience is the key. And you cannot experience anything unless you feel like it. And you cannot feel anything unless you think about it ( talk of walking on coal) hence it is the thought that you have to learn to control. There is the Holy Trinity, thought -word- action. That holy spirit you keep ranting about exists in you, only your doubt veils that truth. Thus in your doubt you go looking for it outside yourself, outside the church which is in your heart, to the church where you collect millions of dollars from already poor people. Hence you go out....and go without.

As you may have noticed i have not used any biblical or kooranic verse to justify what i have said......in your case i may as well be the false prophet as your books so often claim. Ofcourse we will always be wrong for you. Coach claims his kooran challenges anyone to write a better verse......i mean how low and stupid can one get, it just reeks of self-egotism. If i know i am the truth why would i wanna challenge anything???? And to make matters worse, who will be the judge of that? Where on this earth will you ever find a muslim who will claim, yes, indeed here is another verse better than the one in our kooran.......This is a bait.....whoever has tried to do so has either been killed or doesn't exist in the open...maybe in hiding...ask salman rushdie.

I keep on my quest.....Oneness with God....join me if you want to.......anyone?

-the paradigm shifter........God's friend.