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Default RE: Proletariat please - 03-28-2002, 02:51 PM

Babe

I beg to differ with your understanding of what it means to be born-again.

"Every member of Catholic Church is born again, since we are all baptized with water in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Jesus explanation of being born again was baptism as practiced by the church".

The book of John chapter 3 clearly talks about what it means to be born again. Not every member of the Catholic Church is born-again because they don't understand what it means. This is the reason I stated in this thread that they are actually born-again Catholics. Baptism is not what saves a person from their sins. It is a sign of obedience. In John chapter 3 Jesus was saying that in order for someone to enter into the kingdom of God, they must be made alive by the spirit of God.

Baptism is an outward sign/testimony of an inward
work of God in a believer. Rom 6:3-5 says, "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life". When a person is baptised, they are in effect says that they have trusted Christ as the only atoning sacrifice for their sins and his is now Lord and savior of their life. Baptism symbolizes that we are buried with Christ into death, and raises like Christ to walk in the abundant life that Christ offers.

May people are baptised before they accept Christ. Unfortunately, that means absolutely noting. Baptism is therefore an outward expression to believers of an inward work of the spirit of God in the life of a believer. Infact the bible says the without the spirit of God drawing people to God, no one can enter the kingdom of God. Baptism is not what saves anyone. It is Jesus Christ death on the cross that saves those that call upon him to save them.